It's tempting to think of the soldiers (and marines) on duty in Iraq as being saints. It's also tempting to think that all of them are full of altruistic motives and genuinely support their commander-in-chief and the effort to free a nation. Unfortunately, that isn't the case. ..
On a recent post about Corn (The post was literally about corn.) I received the following comment from a guy named Rick,
It's off topic, but I thought I'd message the most recent entry. I was wonder how you felt that our soldier's in Iraq are getting shot at while helping transport drilling equipment from Texas oil companies? Is that what we went to war for?Of course, I've heard plenty of "no blood for oil" from the loony left so I went a little ballistic and replied,
Of course Rick, it's all about the oil. That's why we're paying almost 2 bucks a gallon. Oh yeah, and Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time and Dick Cheney is secretly in charge and Bush and Bin Laden are in bed together... what a tool you are rick.Apparently Rick is a soldier in Iraq. From that vantage point, Rick seems to have some pretty strong opinions,
Imagine seeing oil drilling equipment in a country whose main export is...oil. You really have a hot news flash there. Take your paranoid rantings someplace else.
People comment about John Kerry and how he opposed the war after being lauded as a true hero; I'm not a big John Kerry fan, but I'm a firm believer that in order to have the right to oppose the war, you should have participated in it.So, it would appear, that I'm posting this from my World of Blinders (hey that might be a good name for a blog.) My problem with this whole interchange is that I pretty much idolize a lot of our soldiers, but this whole thing forces me to admit that they aren't all great guys I'd like to have over for a cup of coffee. Maybe Rick is an okay guy and maybe I'd like him if I met him in person, but I don't really like his self-righteous attitude or the fact that he's ready to cast judgements on me based purely on whatever he's read at this blog.
Your reaction couldn't have been more perfect. Rabid, Neo-Conservatives kill me with their predictability. "Take your paranoid rantings someplace else." You say? Allow me to retort.
I'm an Infantry squad leader currently serving in Iraq. I'm a model leader, having been promoted at the fastest rate the Army allows. I've attended numerous school and am being awarded for bravery in combat. I only mentioned the above scenario because that's exactly what happened not too long ago. Even worse, I had three new soldiers, barely out of Basic Training on their second mission during that. What if they would have died? For what? So we could ensure the safety of, yes, a Texas oil company's equipment? This isn't paranoid ranting, sir. It's a true story, given by someone that IS in a position to comment on this war. I would never have commented here, but that your blind, rabid obdience (I'm sure you call it "patriotism"), sickens me. I am a patriot. I love my country and will fight to my last breath for it whenever and wherever.
Just thought I'd let you see another perspective in your World of Blinders.
Rick,So there it is. I really would like to hear from some of you milbloggers out there. Who's off-base here? And Rick, if you're reading this, there's no malice behind this. I appreciate your willingness to do your duty and wish both you and your men well. (but you're still wrong) Posted by jdmays at August 19, 2004 07:06 PM | TrackBack
Who would've thought a post on corn would generate so much heat?
I'm happy that you have the opportunity to serve your country and would basically let you get away with saying just about any crazy thing based on the fact that you've literally risked your life for it.
I think you would probably agree though that your position doesn't give you any great revelation on absolute truth.
The fact is that there are a lot of seemingly meaningless things for which soldiers risk their lives. I happen to think that protecting equipment used in the rebuilding of a country isn't necessarily worthless. I wonder - if this drilling equipment was from Saudi if you or someone else would be complaining that the least we could do is get it from our own country.
As far as your comment about blind rabid obedience, I'm not sure what made you decide that so there really isn't much way to address that charge. I would say, on the contrary, that I tend to be a skeptical person and in this blog I've been critical of everyone including President Bush, Republicans, other Republican members of congress, etc.
Perhaps your position doesn't give you a broad enough perspective on the political climate here in the states or who knows really why you feel the way you do...
Either way, I can honestly make the same statement you made,
I am a patriot. I love my country and will fight to my last breath for it whenever and wherever.
If that's not good enough in your judgement I suppose there's nothing I can do about that.
By the way, you might be seeing your post show up on the front page of this blog since you raise some important points that I'd like others, especially other milbloggers to comment on.
Well, you asked for my .02 so here it is. JD, you touched upon this and it is the closest to the real truth. Both sides in this are kinda like the blind men trying to discribe an elephent. You charged in with guns blazing, not realizing who and or what the other guy was either going through or his assesment of "the situation". Rick on the other hand suffers from what many of us who served or are currently serving, might call seeing the tree or just our little grove and not the whole forest. On the face of it yes men in uniform are being used in many ways over there, helping (be it pulling guard duty or some such) in rebuilding the infrastucture of Iraq could quite logically be part of the ever evolving mission/ tasks you might be assigned to. Though no one expects every order to be cheerfully carried out (you gents and ladies are not robots), if you have concerns or questions about said orders the proper proceedure would be to seek (if prudent or possible) additional information from your chain of command. As a leading petty officer at one time, I would have welcomed any question as to how to properly carry out a given order or task (agian conditions permitting). I have gone off on troops who felt they had the need to know "why" at the time of carrying out same. As you are a squad leader and have troops under you I would imagine you are aware of that. That you would make the statement you did about wheither or not (the collective) we were aware of soldiers being used for something you apparently find less then an honorable use..or one that you find personally objectionable. Strikes me as a statement made by one...who although profecient at what you were/are trained to do....might want to think about one of your troops reading same and the consiquences which could result. If you are openly questioning the authority of your command...can your troops be expected to do any less....and perhaps not follow orders at some future date. Think about that.
Posted by: Guy S. at August 19, 2004 08:32 PMJDM ---
I am definitely not a milblogger (Milwaukee blogger, maybe ... but not a military blogger). However, I do know how to read and how to feel various emotions. I don't think it was so much WHAT you said in response to Rick's initial question but the WAY you said it that was offensive to him and/or other readers.
And I imagine if SOME of us in the States are frustrated with this war, that some of our troops might feel this way too.
Guy, thanks for your input.
Sarah, well...we see things differently and I can respect that.
As far as coming in with guns blazing, I stand guilty as charged. When someone comes knocking on my door and throws outrageous allegations around, chances are they're going to get it right back and then some. I'm not sure if that's right, but it's the way I tend to react.
-jdm
I think it's a reasonable reaction when someone anonymously poops on your doorstep. But, that's just me.
Posted by: Deb at August 19, 2004 10:25 PMDid it ever come to your mind that sense some of the terrorist have been messing around with iraq's oil supply, and blew one up, that maybe we're just replacing it for them, to help their recovery to move faster? The army has this thing , whereever we go, if we had helped in (not on purpose)something that belonged to someone else, we replace it, usually for more than the actual cost, so for partly political reasons, there wont be a problem between us and iraq, so we may be friends, say example britian and us.......
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